Most famous cast of jhang is SIAL and they are occupying more then seventy percent of agriculture land and they have rule over more then four hundred years in jhang State , many of the people are doctors,engineers,agriculturist, economist,scientists,teachers,businessmen,etc.belongs to The royal SIAL tribe.The most important subcast is SAHIBANA SIAL and all other subcasts of sial are originated from SAHIBANA SIAL and famous people of SAHIBANA SIAL family are Khanzada Khan Abdul Rasheed Khan Sial,Khanzada Khan Muhammad Fuzail Khan urf Rajab Ali Khan Sial, Khanzada Khan Allah Ditta Khan Sial (Director Agriculture EXT.(R)), Khanzada Khan Dilshad Asif Khan Sial(Agronomist,Politician,MSc(HONS) Agriculture),Khanzada Khan Shahzad Ahmad Khan Sial(CANADIAN NATIONAL),Khanzada Khan Fawad Ahmad Khan Sial (Engineering in Computer Science,Politician).Khanzada Khan Huzaifa Ahmad Khan Sial(CANADIAN NATIONAL)Khanzada Khan Darain Haider Khan Sial,All of them have perform a lot of hard work for the development of their country.
This thinking of superiority is cause Jhang's backwardness. For heavens sake, try to rise above it to become noble and knowledgeable. I am also a sial but the so-called kammi, Dr Abdus Salam is superior to all.
ALLAH is great and superior to all remember always, and the people do not like to repeat the theories of ion- st-ion and Dr.A-Salam but they want to create new ideas as they are very talented to built jhang and Pakistan to come forward in the race of development,Backwardness if is here in your point of view is due to terrorism and illiteracy,there is no now feudalism in the area the people are more knowledgeable due to print and electronic media, only the races are found which are proud to their forefather's achievements and this is not to said cause of jhang's backwardness.you are a sial but so called kammi,it is the jell-icy of other tell them and preach that all the human being belong to Hazrat Adam-alah slam He was the propht of ALLAH.
I am aghast at your logic. You are an agriculturist. It is expected that you are adept in art of reasoning. Feudalism may not be there, but feudal psyche is very much there. You are proud to be a Sahibana. No issue. But your state of mind will never allow you to think beyond that. Now a fake sial, Tahirul Qadri, is calling the shots. Syeda Abida, Faisal type of people are holding a remote control over people and your are taking pride in being sial. I believe people like you behave like a slave when sitting in front of a kammi CSP. that is your be all and end all. Yeh aap ki soch hai, and this thinking and way of thinking is keeping Jhang backward
If you know the history of the land settlement of 1861, you would know the reality of today's prominent sials. The sials, who were son of the soil, are now landless. Bharwanas sided with British, did mukhbari of fighting sials. Go to DCO office, get the history of moza sultanpur which had 850 squares of land. The mahni owners of that land were fighting goras, and these Bharwanas who were merely cultivating that land at real owners behest, helped British to capture the fighters, and got all land transferred in their names. All this is part of DC office record. Rasheedpur Sials are also known for their loayalty to Sikhs and then British. Today who is the master of Jhang -- Syeds,and Khojas. Aap bus ussi purani akkarr ke saath zinda rahain aur 18 grade pe retire ho jayain. Yehi aap ki auqat hai, Khanzada sahib
And if you really insist on categorising Sials, then you must know that Jalalkhananas, Mahnis of Khiwa are no less than anyone else. STOP LIVING IN PAST.
All sials are son of Rai Sial who is descendent of Jag Deo (Jagdev or Jagdai) Panwar. Now history tells, Rai or Rao Shankar was defeated and his son Sial got panah of Baba Farid. That is known history. You must know that politically week Rajputs converted to Islam; whereas we are told that they converted to Islam due to the teachings of Sufis. That is only partially true. The fact is that politically beaten and weak Rajputs assumed Islam to identify themselves with the religion of the rulers that was Islam at that time. You accept or reject it; that's your call; but you can't name, except a few, any strong Rajput who converted to Islam. So dear, be on the realistic side of the history, not on the .one that pushes you into illusion. You are sial, and I feel affinity towards you. That's why I did my bit to show the other side of the coin. I can only regret if you take offence; but the way you said "people don't like theories', I was wondering that how could an MSc Hons say that.
Ghiausdin Bulban was the King of Hind and Rai SIAL was the Raja of Stat he did ajitation with his two brother Ghio(Gheba family originated) and Teo(Twana family orginated) and defeated ,Sial came to Baba farid not for penah but for help .Sial became Muslim and thanks of ALLAH we are muslims,Sail married in Makin family By the help of Baba and settled near the bank of river Chenab and jhelam in JHANG,Sials forefather ruled near about 2000 years and after 8 races of SIAL with increase of population of his family they ruled in stat of Jhang for more then 350 years.plz.read the history deeply not formly,and write in short,I do not know why are you against the SIAL tribe ,Is there any CSP or 18 grad or more in your side?Introduce yourself otherwise discussion is meaningless.I have written that the people do not like to repeat the theories of scientist, mind it.
I am not against Sials. How can I be when I am myself a sial. Pleas go through my posts and see that I was only trying to sensitise you on a fine point that you, an MSc, failed to see. Sial went to Baba for help or panah is clear in history. Now I don't know which history you are referring? History is not simply a narration of past events by original narrators or later historians. It is how we look at it with our perspective at a given moment. You asked me: "Is there any CSP or 18 grad or more in your side?" This question exposes your GREAT INTTELECT. There is no use to waste words for a great man like you, but I would ask you to check the following fact of recent history. Khan Bahadur Abdul Rehman Khan was the commander-in-chief of the BAHAWALPUR STATE ARMY (1909 to 1927) and member, perhaps head, of the council of regency that ruled Bahawalpur until the Nawab grew adult. He was a Sial from my ancestors from a village near Bhowana. I can show you more grades, but that is useless. I haven't told you anything about me either, rather I asked you to meet one day. But that would be useless. If Jhang is rich in talent and MSc guys like you, Jhang would remain backward, rather its downward slide would continue. What a wast of time!!! No more contact from me in future. bye
Wa'alaikum as Salam Maghiana is prime sial subcaste. Jhang Sadar's old name is Jhang Maghiana. Maghiana, if I trust my an old reading, was founded by Megha sial whose progeny was called Maghiana.
By the way, history has moved fast. History has seen Mughals earning their living by running tongas, and similar was the fate of sons of defeated Salateen-e-Dehli. In Jhang, the musallis are believed to be the warriors of Alexander the Great, Sikandar-e-Azam. Today it is knowledge and piety alone that can earn a man respect, not the title of his forefathers. How can an illiterate Syed, Sial, Pathan be superior to a knowledgeable kammi. The West moved forward by understanding history and throwing off shackles of past. So instead of wasting time in proving ourselves superior, we should learn to value ourselves as human beings and try to make a difference by identifying the unique element Almighty has gifted us. Believe me, each one of us is different, not superior or inferior, and once we identify that that unique element in each one of us, we can build upon it and live a life free of prejudices. Love all, and live a happy life. God bless you.
how much reality is this?today other casts are better than sials or others those casts whom you most neglected are really powerful today hence don't mention one is better than other its advise to u
how much reality is this?today other casts are better than sials or others those casts whom you most neglected are really powerful today hence don't mention one is better than other its advise to u
My very contention of commenting on this blog was same as yours. Why taking pride in being Sial and then claiming to be supreme. Caste question in the 21st century is simply ridiculous. We should excel in education and regard all human beings as equals.
The question is why Jhang is backward today? Why motorway has not been passed from near Jhang? The answer is Shaikhs of Shalimar transport company did not want it. Similarly, they did not allow Jhang-Sargodha road widening for fear of New Khan Transport. I am saying this with full authority. The people of Jhang have failed to get red of rule of Syeds, Sials, Shaikhs. They are slaves. Look at the speed with which TT Singh and Chiniot are growing. Faisalabad and Sargodha used to tehsils of Jhang, but today Jhang is nowhere in the map of development.
Haan yeh ghalat hai. Apna baap tabdeel nahi keran chahiye. Lekin sial hazrat ko bhi apnay sial honay per gharoor nahi kerna chahiye. Fakhar darust hai, lekin gharoor nahi. Is ke ilawa yeh bhi sochna chahiye ke aaj sial siasi hawalay se kahan khharray hain? Apni tabahi mein sialon ka khud bohot barra haath hai. Kash hum log ikhlaq aur kirdar mein behtar hotay aur aaj jhang tarqi yafta hota. Shaikh hazrat ne motorway jhang ke qareeb se nahi guzarnay dia. ye sochnay ka muqam hai
Dear Farooq Khan, your knowledge of Sial history is simply amazing. I have seen Sials bragging about their certain clans as to who has a higher status than the other. All this is nothing but ignorance. What difference does it make to the world if one comes from an influential clan or not. Reading your posts i got my answer of certain clans being the landlords while others being landless farmers. Thanks and best wishes.
assallam o alaikoom. Im from Karachi Mechnical Engineer i belong to Kaliyana Siyal family, & every caste that ends with "ana" is the subcaste of Siyal tribe like Mechiana Bharwana & Kaliyana.
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Most famous cast of jhang is SIAL and they are occupying more then seventy percent of agriculture land and they have rule over more then four hundred years in jhang State , many of the people are doctors,engineers,agriculturist, economist,scientists,teachers,businessmen,etc.belongs to The royal SIAL tribe.The most important subcast is SAHIBANA SIAL and all other subcasts of sial are originated from SAHIBANA SIAL and famous people of SAHIBANA SIAL family are Khanzada Khan Abdul Rasheed Khan Sial,Khanzada Khan Muhammad Fuzail Khan urf Rajab Ali Khan Sial, Khanzada Khan Allah Ditta Khan Sial (Director Agriculture EXT.(R)), Khanzada Khan Dilshad Asif Khan Sial(Agronomist,Politician,MSc(HONS) Agriculture),Khanzada Khan Shahzad Ahmad Khan Sial(CANADIAN NATIONAL),Khanzada Khan Fawad Ahmad Khan Sial (Engineering in Computer Science,Politician).Khanzada Khan Huzaifa Ahmad Khan Sial(CANADIAN NATIONAL)Khanzada Khan Darain Haider Khan Sial,All of them have perform a lot of hard work for the development of their country.
This thinking of superiority is cause Jhang's backwardness. For heavens sake, try to rise above it to become noble and knowledgeable. I am also a sial but the so-called kammi, Dr Abdus Salam is superior to all.
ALLAH is great and superior to all remember always, and the people do not like to repeat the theories of ion- st-ion and Dr.A-Salam but they want to create new ideas as they are very talented to built jhang and Pakistan to come forward in the race of development,Backwardness if is here in your point of view is due to terrorism and illiteracy,there is no now feudalism in the area the people are more knowledgeable due to print and electronic media, only the races are found which are proud to their forefather's achievements and this is not to said cause of jhang's backwardness.you are a sial but so called kammi,it is the jell-icy of other tell them and preach that all the human being belong to Hazrat Adam-alah slam He was the propht of ALLAH.
Jihalat ka jawab hai. Assalam-o-Alaikum
Your claim that all subcastes emerged fro Sahibana is wrong. If you want to communicate, tell me. we may meet some day
I am aghast at your logic. You are an agriculturist. It is expected that you are adept in art of reasoning. Feudalism may not be there, but feudal psyche is very much there. You are proud to be a Sahibana. No issue. But your state of mind will never allow you to think beyond that. Now a fake sial, Tahirul Qadri, is calling the shots. Syeda Abida, Faisal type of people are holding a remote control over people and your are taking pride in being sial. I believe people like you behave like a slave when sitting in front of a kammi CSP. that is your be all and end all. Yeh aap ki soch hai, and this thinking and way of thinking is keeping Jhang backward
If you know the history of the land settlement of 1861, you would know the reality of today's prominent sials. The sials, who were son of the soil, are now landless. Bharwanas sided with British, did mukhbari of fighting sials. Go to DCO office, get the history of moza sultanpur which had 850 squares of land. The mahni owners of that land were fighting goras, and these Bharwanas who were merely cultivating that land at real owners behest, helped British to capture the fighters, and got all land transferred in their names. All this is part of DC office record. Rasheedpur Sials are also known for their loayalty to Sikhs and then British. Today who is the master of Jhang -- Syeds,and Khojas. Aap bus ussi purani akkarr ke saath zinda rahain aur 18 grade pe retire ho jayain. Yehi aap ki auqat hai, Khanzada sahib
And if you really insist on categorising Sials, then you must know that Jalalkhananas, Mahnis of Khiwa are no less than anyone else. STOP LIVING IN PAST.
All sials are son of Rai Sial who is descendent of Jag Deo (Jagdev or Jagdai) Panwar. Now history tells, Rai or Rao Shankar was defeated and his son Sial got panah of Baba Farid. That is known history. You must know that politically week Rajputs converted to Islam; whereas we are told that they converted to Islam due to the teachings of Sufis. That is only partially true. The fact is that politically beaten and weak Rajputs assumed Islam to identify themselves with the religion of the rulers that was Islam at that time. You accept or reject it; that's your call; but you can't name, except a few, any strong Rajput who converted to Islam. So dear, be on the realistic side of the history, not on the .one that pushes you into illusion. You are sial, and I feel affinity towards you. That's why I did my bit to show the other side of the coin. I can only regret if you take offence; but the way you said "people don't like theories', I was wondering that how could an MSc Hons say that.
Ghiausdin Bulban was the King of Hind and Rai SIAL was the Raja of Stat he did ajitation with his two brother Ghio(Gheba family originated) and Teo(Twana family orginated) and defeated ,Sial came to Baba farid not for penah but for help .Sial became Muslim and thanks of ALLAH we are muslims,Sail married in Makin family By the help of Baba and settled near the bank of river Chenab and jhelam in JHANG,Sials forefather ruled near about 2000 years and after 8 races of SIAL with increase of population of his family they ruled in stat of Jhang for more then 350 years.plz.read the history deeply not formly,and write in short,I do not know why are you against the SIAL tribe ,Is there any CSP or 18 grad or more in your side?Introduce yourself otherwise discussion is meaningless.I have written that the people do not like to repeat the theories of scientist, mind it.
I am not against Sials. How can I be when I am myself a sial. Pleas go through my posts and see that I was only trying to sensitise you on a fine point that you, an MSc, failed to see. Sial went to Baba for help or panah is clear in history. Now I don't know which history you are referring? History is not simply a narration of past events by original narrators or later historians. It is how we look at it with our perspective at a given moment. You asked me: "Is there any CSP or 18 grad or more in your side?" This question exposes your GREAT INTTELECT. There is no use to waste words for a great man like you, but I would ask you to check the following fact of recent history. Khan Bahadur Abdul Rehman Khan was the commander-in-chief of the BAHAWALPUR STATE ARMY (1909 to 1927) and member, perhaps head, of the council of regency that ruled Bahawalpur until the Nawab grew adult. He was a Sial from my ancestors from a village near Bhowana. I can show you more grades, but that is useless. I haven't told you anything about me either, rather I asked you to meet one day. But that would be useless. If Jhang is rich in talent and MSc guys like you, Jhang would remain backward, rather its downward slide would continue. What a wast of time!!! No more contact from me in future. bye
Assalamoalikum can u tell me about Chukwana cast,it's Sial subcast???
I don't know but one thing is confirmed that Chukwana is a an African family.
most sial sub-castes end up in "ana" but not necessarily.
Assalamoalikum can u tell me about Mighiana cast,it's Sial subcast???
Wa'alaikum as Salam Maghiana is prime sial subcaste. Jhang Sadar's old name is Jhang Maghiana. Maghiana, if I trust my an old reading, was founded by Megha sial whose progeny was called Maghiana.
Jhang Maghiana was formed by Megha. My source is Tareekh-e-Jhang and Jhang Gazetteer
By the way, history has moved fast. History has seen Mughals earning their living by running tongas, and similar was the fate of sons of defeated Salateen-e-Dehli. In Jhang, the musallis are believed to be the warriors of Alexander the Great, Sikandar-e-Azam. Today it is knowledge and piety alone that can earn a man respect, not the title of his forefathers. How can an illiterate Syed, Sial, Pathan be superior to a knowledgeable kammi. The West moved forward by understanding history and throwing off shackles of past. So instead of wasting time in proving ourselves superior, we should learn to value ourselves as human beings and try to make a difference by identifying the unique element Almighty has gifted us. Believe me, each one of us is different, not superior or inferior, and once we identify that that unique element in each one of us, we can build upon it and live a life free of prejudices. Love all, and live a happy life. God bless you.
how much reality is this?today other casts are better than sials or others those casts whom you most neglected are really powerful today hence don't mention one is better than other
its advise to u
how much reality is this?today other casts are better than sials or others those casts whom you most neglected are really powerful today hence don't mention one is better than other
its advise to u
My very contention of commenting on this blog was same as yours. Why taking pride in being Sial and then claiming to be supreme. Caste question in the 21st century is simply ridiculous. We should excel in education and regard all human beings as equals.
The question is why Jhang is backward today? Why motorway has not been passed from near Jhang? The answer is Shaikhs of Shalimar transport company did not want it. Similarly, they did not allow Jhang-Sargodha road widening for fear of New Khan Transport. I am saying this with full authority. The people of Jhang have failed to get red of rule of Syeds, Sials, Shaikhs. They are slaves. Look at the speed with which TT Singh and Chiniot are growing. Faisalabad and Sargodha used to tehsils of Jhang, but today Jhang is nowhere in the map of development.
aj to machi b sial ban gay hain kia yeh zulm ni k ak kami shodar ne sial ka lebda ohr lia hai
Haan yeh ghalat hai. Apna baap tabdeel nahi keran chahiye. Lekin sial hazrat ko bhi apnay sial honay per gharoor nahi kerna chahiye. Fakhar darust hai, lekin gharoor nahi. Is ke ilawa yeh bhi sochna chahiye ke aaj sial siasi hawalay se kahan khharray hain? Apni tabahi mein sialon ka khud bohot barra haath hai. Kash hum log ikhlaq aur kirdar mein behtar hotay aur aaj jhang tarqi yafta hota. Shaikh hazrat ne motorway jhang ke qareeb se nahi guzarnay dia. ye sochnay ka muqam hai
Dear Farooq Khan, your knowledge of Sial history is simply amazing. I have seen Sials bragging about their certain clans as to who has a higher status than the other. All this is nothing but ignorance. What difference does it make to the world if one comes from an influential clan or not.
Reading your posts i got my answer of certain clans being the landlords while others being landless farmers.
Thanks and best wishes.
are mimra sial
Sial are jatt or rajputh in jhang?
assallam o alaikoom. Im from Karachi Mechnical Engineer i belong to Kaliyana Siyal family, & every caste that ends with "ana" is the subcaste of Siyal tribe like Mechiana Bharwana & Kaliyana.
Are you hindu😃
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